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CITIZEN IRA

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POLL: Suicide is a terrible fact of life especially for our military.

Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:23 PM EDT
health, war, family, anxiety, killing, anger, suicides, military-commanders
By Citizen Ira

Live Poll

Who should we blame for suicides in our society ?

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  • 107872
    All those with relationships with anybody.
    11%
  • 107873
    In the military, the commanders.
    22%
  • 107874
    Parents......
    0%
  • 107875
    The government.
    11%
  • 107876
    The media and its hype !
    0%
  • 107877
    All of the above.
    56%

VoteTotal Votes: 9

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Can suicides be prevented?

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  • 107878
    No, if they want to do it they will.
    11%
  • 107879
    Yes, if we pay a little more attention to detail.
    89%
  • 107880
    I don't know, it's not easy.
    0%
  • 107881
    None of the above.
    0%

VoteTotal Votes: 9

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How do we resolve the issue of so many suicides ?

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Earlier, I wrote this piece below in response to an article. However, such a touching subject should be shared with the complete Newsvine audience. We all must become involved with this tragedy of life that affects our friends, military, relationships, and family.

Citizen Ira

Suicide is a terrible fact of life. During my years in Asia (nearly twenty), suicide was considered the honorable thing to do in some cases. But in actuality, the act was done because of failure, disappointment, guilt, embarassment, and jealousy.

Our troops overseas in GWOT (Global War On Terrorism) are mentally disturbed because of the change in environment and the pressures of war. Killing a person could become a necessity when your life or family is threatened. Even then you need counselling to peacefully deal with what has happened.

Add that anger, anxiousness, and anxiety to the systematic killing of humans takes its toll on the human mind. Every man and woman are not natural killers. They are potential but not natural. There's a difference.

It's easy and likely the commanders are to blame for not being observative of their force. But the truth of the matter, the commanders are stressed out too. War is not a common, acceptable, and practical style of living. Especially after almost 9 years and God knows how many deployments, I'm not at the least surprised of the suicide rate.

During my 24 years in the Air Force, this has always been a problem during the war era and peace time era. Suicides still persisit because some just coudn't deal with the change of environment. Add war, and the rate only goes up. Who is the blame? Collectively, we all are. We all are invloved. Many of us saw the signals/ warning and did nothing.

Fact is, the majority of us are not natural killers. But if we are forced to, for a period of time, we conclude the right person to kill is ourselves......

Citizen Ira

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Citizen Ira

The increase in suicides is definitely war related. Th increase in deployments account for more suicides. The absence of attention to detail is the fault of additional suicides. Suicides require a collective effort.

Citizen Ira

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:31 PM EDT
Edward-453134

George W Bush, the Republican party, and those in the Pentagon are to blame for all the suicides we're seeing today. They have absolutely no respect for the armed forces. That is proven by consecutive tours they have had.

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:30 PM EDT
Citizen Ira

I have partners who have deployed between Afghan and Iraq for four times. They are still cool and we talk but I know they are affected by this. Most don't like to talk about it but they admit it's not natural to kill humans but they have no choice it's us or them.

They are my friends but they will never be the same........mentally.

Citizen Ira

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 5:46 PM EDT
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yes I CAN

This should not be happening in such high numbers ...there comes a point you bend and bend and then they snap and break...And they cant have enough support services at every juncture every level of situation up until re entry back to civilian life and ongoing suppoerts in place in VA and communities and families and extended families and long time friends prepped and the worst weopon of mass destruction is negligence and breaks in the system so bad and not repaired that suicides are routine...Thats not even counting those that are suffering and not taking their lives YET

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:50 PM EDT
Citizen Ira

I ask the question "how long should this be allowed to continue"? Bring our wounded home and let's start the healing process. If someone attacks us, the country where they are from should suffer to include their families. This terrorism crap has got to be niped in the butt.

Make the countries where these bums are from pay some of the price. 14 of 19, 911 suicide punks were from Saudi Arabia. They should pay with their lives or their money. Make countires control their citizens not us !!!!!

Citizen Ira

  • 1 vote
#3.1 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 5:58 PM EDT
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Stu-4803409

I don't think we can ever completely stop suicides, particularly military ones. I do think we should do whatever we can both as individuals and as a country to make every effort to prevent it and help these people. A lot of people go through their day never knowing the impact just saying hello or doing a good deed for a stranger may have on their life. These people give years of their precious life for the country, and while I personally don't think we should have sent them on any of the current engagements, we still owe them respect and decent care.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:43 PM EDT
Citizen Ira

I agree,

We shouldn't be over there but we owe them a debt of gratitude for it is they that are making the sacrificies.

Sometimes I hate (strong word) politicians. While they are playing politics and worrying about re-election our troops are dying. All those politicians should be made to serve and if they are too old, their children should be made to serve.

When you have a dog in a fight you are more likely to protect that dog at all cost (just a metaphor). No disrepect to our troops.

Citizen Ira

  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 5:53 PM EDT
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